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Post by angkorheng on Aug 29, 2021 22:25:29 GMT -8
The biggest contradiction within "The Storm" by Kate Chopin is the contrast between the parallels of the weather throughout the text, and the relationship between Alcee and Calixta. Throughout the text, the weather changed very rapidly causing the mood to shift along with it. In the beginning, the weather was dark and moody, with "certain somber clouds that were rolling with sinister intention from the west, accompanied by a sullen, threatening roar," creating a bleak mood. The feelings of Calixta and Alcee's characters contrast with the mood, as they are being passionate, heated, and intense. The storm may also be described as intense, but there is a much different intensity between the weather and the relationship between Alcee and Calixta, which directly contradict each other. Hey Brotha! I really like your interpretation of the text and really agree with you on this. I also believe that the sudden change in weather along with how the weather was acting greatly paralleled the events that took place in the house. Especially the "sinister intention" of the clouds relating with the affair. I want to add on to that by saying that affairs are very commonly looked down upon as ill intended or wrong, which could also relate back to the "sinister intentions" of the clouds rolling in. Just some food for your thought brotha! |
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Post by Ria Sehgal on Aug 29, 2021 22:28:08 GMT -8
The biggest contradiction within "The Storm" by Kate Chopin is the contrast between the parallels of the weather throughout the text, and the relationship between Alcee and Calixta. Throughout the text, the weather changed very rapidly causing the mood to shift along with it. In the beginning, the weather was dark and moody, with "certain somber clouds that were rolling with sinister intention from the west, accompanied by a sullen, threatening roar," creating a bleak mood. The feelings of Calixta and Alcee's characters contrast with the mood, as they are being passionate, heated, and intense. The storm may also be described as intense, but there is a much different intensity between the weather and the relationship between Alcee and Calixta, which directly contradict each other. I completely agree with your response. The weather is symbolic of Calixta and Alcee's relationship and feelings. The storm and rain show Alcee and Calixta coming together and Calixta being separated from her husband and child. Calixta and Alcee come together when the storm starts and they both separate from one another when the storm ends. This shows the weather as being symbolic of their feelings and relationship. |
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Post by Ashley Ma on Aug 29, 2021 22:28:51 GMT -8
How To Read Literature Like A Professor mentions in chapter 9 that rain is usually included in stories to isolate characters. However, we see that the effect the storm has on Calixta and Alcee is the exact opposite. While in the context of all the characters, they may be isolated from the rest, the storm still manages to bring the two of them together. Its ferocity sparks fear in Calixta, which causes Alcee's old feelings to rise up again and he latches onto the chance to comfort her. This ties into when the storm ends and Alcee leaves, creating a contradiction where a storm unites and the sun divides. I agree with Akash that there is a great contradiction between how storms usually isolate people versus how it connects Calixta and Alcee. Furthermore, I feel as if it plays into the unpredictable nature of mother nature. There are times when it will isolate people, while other times, it make create surprising events that you would have never though that would occur. |
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Post by garrettd on Aug 29, 2021 22:39:39 GMT -8
When it comes to The Storm, it is sometimes hard to notice all of the little details that the author includes in order to drive their story. One of the largest contradictions discussed in my group when we analyzed this story was near the end with the contradiction of mental realization and cleanliness. In this I mean that when the father and son come home from the shack/store, they are absolutely filthy but none the wiser to the wife's deeds; their consciences are completely clear. However, the wife is seem as impeccably clean and orderly with her conscience unclean with the actions of her and her lover. How to Read Literature Like a Professor also gives an alternative interpretation of the weather itself, possibly personified as the sexual frustration of the wife and lover exploding in thunder and rain and afterwards, it being clam with the tension released.
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Post by Kiersten Kang on Aug 29, 2021 22:43:39 GMT -8
Kate Chopin's "The Storm" depicts the relationship between a man and woman who rekindle the passion of their past, in spite of having their own families beyond the storm. A large contradiction in the story is the contrast between the weather and the actions of the characters. Despite the peaceful and drowsy atmosphere of the passing storm and light rain, Calixta and Alcee have just committed an act of adultery filled with chaos and anything but peace. The pair ignores the raging weight of their wrongdoing and instead smile and laugh along with the delightful weather. This mirrors the laughter at the dinner table Calixta shares with her family later that night, her husband and son both unware of the treachery she has committed. The lightness of the weather highlights the carefree bliss that Calixta tries to hide behind, while also highlighting the wrongness of her adultery through the contradiction it poses.
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Post by Robert on Aug 29, 2021 22:47:47 GMT -8
The contradictions in "The Storm" from the shown weather to the actions of the main characters, Calixta and Alcee. In the story, the characters are shown to be joyously laughing and enjoying themselves, while outside it's shown to be stormy, cloudy weather. Mentioned in How to Read Literature like a Professor, cloudy and stormy weather can represent a lot of negative feelings and events, such as anger, sorrow, and distrust. This is a big contradiction as there is a negative feeling looming around with the symbolism of the storm but inside the house, there is a happy and ecstatic feeling.
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Post by Kiersten Kang on Aug 29, 2021 22:49:23 GMT -8
In Kate Chopin's "The Storm", she creates a contradiction between the stormy weather versus the environment inside the house. Outside there was a dark and dangerous storm yet the events in Calixta's house were passionate and warm. The peak of the weather would represent the height of the affair between Calixta and Alcee as their relationship rekindled. Also, despite the "crashing torrents, and the roar of elements", they acted as if they couldn't hear it because they were blinded by their physical needs. Another contradiction that appears is towards the end of the storm when Chopin writes: "sun was turning the glistening green world into a palace of gems" to represent the satisfaction felt by the two while Bobinot and his son were all dirty and struggled to get home. I definitely agree with the contrast between the environment outdoors and the social environment indoors. I think it was very insightful that you pointed out the relationship between the climax of the storm and the parallel climax of Calixta and Alcee's affair. One thing I didn't think of was the contradiction of the author's description of the "palace of gems" Calixta and Alcee rested at compared to the dirt and grime of Bobinot and Bibi. That makes me think of the contrast between their names as well; Calixta and Alcee's names sound more complicated whereas Bobinot and Bibi's names sound simpler. |
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Post by garrettd on Aug 29, 2021 22:51:35 GMT -8
One of the biggest contradictions in "The Storm" is between the weather and the actions of Calixta and Alcee. As seen in HTRLLAP, stormy weather represents danger, depression, sadness, conflict, and negative events. However, while the storm is going on outside and the other characters are afraid and trying to find safety, Calixta and Alcee are inside laughing. They are almost oblivious to what is happening outside and are passionately having an affair. Both of them are happy, laughing, and enjoying their time which is opposite of what the storm represents. It can seem as if the negative events and danger only applies to Calixta's family that is stuck in the storm. This can represent Calixta's actions being harmful to her family but not herself. Identifying the weather as not matching with what it is typically associated with could also be an indicator that the weather is meant to be interpreted in another way. I found that possibly this raging thunderstorm could represent the tension between the two lovers, and after they have their visit, this weather is seen to calm almost as if the tension is gone |
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Post by Ryan Huynh on Aug 29, 2021 22:54:48 GMT -8
In "The Storm", the storm directly ties to the emotion and passion of both Calixta and Alcee. As we read the story, we see that as the storm grows in intensity, the passion builds up, which is especially evident in Alcee. This nods us towards the idea that the storm guides us through the story, and this is especially true at two parts: the climax and the ending. Using HTRLLAP, rain is usually a cleansing, like washing away something. In this case, the rain completely washes away Alcee and Calixta's innocence. Once the storm reaches the climax, their passion also reaches their climax, which we can see in the details of the scene in the bedroom (won't go into too much details for obvious reasons). However, when the storm and the rain go away, Calixta laughs and the scene shifts back to the normal life of Calixta and Alcee. This parallel convinces us that the storm either serves as a guide for the story or gives off the implicit message that storms cause irrational phenomenon.
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Post by Ryan Huynh on Aug 29, 2021 22:59:42 GMT -8
The contradictions in "The Storm" from the shown weather to the actions of the main characters, Calixta and Alcee. In the story, the characters are shown to be joyously laughing and enjoying themselves, while outside it's shown to be stormy, cloudy weather. Mentioned in How to Read Literature like a Professor, cloudy and stormy weather can represent a lot of negative feelings and events, such as anger, sorrow, and distrust. This is a big contradiction as there is a negative feeling looming around with the symbolism of the storm but inside the house, there is a happy and ecstatic feeling. I slightly agree and disagree. Storms do have a negative connotation, which contradicts with that happy and ecstatic feeling, but it also can represent a surge of emotions or influx of emotions, which we can definitely see in the house. The storm acts more as a supporting element to the story than a contradictory one, however. In the case of "The Storm", I don't think Kate Chopin used the storm to create a contradiction because the storm follows the story too well to the point where it feels as if the storm causes all of the passion. |
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Post by dollyyyz on Aug 29, 2021 23:02:16 GMT -8
One contradiction in the short story "The Storm" by Kate Chopin is the weather and how Calixta acted. When the storm hit, most people will feel fear would always show some negative effects. However in the contradict side, Calixta in the story was acting very happy and comfortable. In the same way, as stated in HTRLAP, the storm is representing about sadness, this is very obviously different from the story. Calixta was very happy in the house because she has no idea about what was going on outside, which shows the contradiction between her personality and the real world.
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Post by Darren Ich on Aug 29, 2021 23:05:13 GMT -8
In the story "The Storm", the storm is causing destruction and is going on a rampage. By causing this destruction it in a way brings the people together. This brings the people together because it brings the father and the kids together. This also brings the wife and the man to meet with each other, which in the end get together. This follow HTRLLAP because the book discusses how weather brings people together which is exactly what the storm does.
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Post by Natalie Gamez on Aug 29, 2021 23:07:02 GMT -8
the reason that the storm was present when aleece rode in on a horse was because their affair brought on a 'storm' of trouble making the weather setting an even bigger factor. the man riding in is a knight in shining armor and calixca is the princess to be saved from her failing marriage and role as a tired mother. its possible that the whole affair she had was in her imagination instead of reality as nobody was around but them and he randomly rode in for no reason or it was pre planned but she didn't seem like she was waiting for him. the store mentioned is possibly a setting that represent her storage compartment and buying shrimp shrimp happens to represent a happy family so the only reason the family at home is happy is because like in the store how clerks have to put up a happy demeanor they have to as well and arent falling apart due to them buying their relationship family she's obviously rich and so is he.
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Post by Darren Ich on Aug 29, 2021 23:14:38 GMT -8
In the short story "The Storm," there are many contradictions throughout the story that connect the various settings that are present. One contradiction that stood out to me was when Calixta and Alcee were in the house enjoying each other's company as if a storm was not brewing outside. In How to Read Literature Like a Professor, it mentions that storms, usually represent danger, conflict, and depression. This is a great representation of what happened in "The Storm" because, in the heat of the storm, it was when Calixta and Alcee cheated and is the climax of the story. The event that happened during the storm was the conflict that would harm their families. I agree with what you said about the "The Storm" and the contradictions you identified. I especially agree with how you identified HTLLAP helps to represent the storm is a sign of danger conflict and depression and how the event that happened during the storm was the conflict that would harm their families. |
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Post by Abraham Zaman on Aug 29, 2021 23:38:12 GMT -8
In "The Storm," a huge contradiction is between the violence of the storm and the success of the affair. "And so the storm passed and everyone was happy" is how the story ends, a subversion of expectations from a storm, which causes destruction and mayhem. Knowing that the storm symbolizes the affair of Calixta and Alcee, something destructive should come from this. However, Chopin contradicts this setting with a blissful ending. This contradiction can be expounded upon using "HTRLLAP," specifically, Chapter 9 (It's More Than Just Rain or Snow). This chapter can be used to explain how storms, in their traditional function, are violent and mean trouble. Possibly this can tie into Kate Chopin's worldview and how she actually is fine with adultery (political/ethical view), implying that the storm actually represents hate the reader from 1898 would have towards such scandalous material and how it doesn't mean anything, shown by the calm ending after the storm.
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