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Post by rebeccaauu on Aug 29, 2021 20:56:24 GMT -8
In Kate Chopin's, "The Storm" a contradiction that can be seen is the weather and the character's response to the weather. In the beginning, the storm is described with "sombre clouds" and "sinister intentions", building suspense and tension. The storm is then personified throughout the story through the characters' actions, specifically Calixta and Alcee's intimate scene. While the storm outside "shingled [the] roof with a force and clatter that threatened to break an entrance", Calixta is rather unbothered by it because the storm is metaphorically Alcee destroying the trust between Calixta and her husband. As the intimacy builds the plot, the storm slowly begins to disappear until Alcee rides away. "The Storm" can be related to the chapter on a deal with the devil from HTRLLAP. There are multiple instances of Alcee taking advantage of Calixta's where he is represented as the devil and the bargain is Calixta's relationship in return for a moment of pleasure. In the text, Alcee's voice is described as one that is deep and puts Calixta in a "trance" for a moment. In another instance "he possessed her". The intimate scenes serve as a reassurance that Calixta did indeed make a deal with the devil. When making such a deal, a price always has to be payed, which in this instance is Calixta's purity and loyalty to her husband and her family. I love the way you interpret the story in relation to HTRLLAP! I also believe that Alcee was taking advantage of Calixta's vulnerable and frightened state, leading her to find comfort with him. At the end of the day though, both of them had an affair and felt no remorse or guilt for their horrible actions. Calixta even continues to have a hearty supper with her family.
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Post by Deejay Bui on Aug 29, 2021 20:59:16 GMT -8
In Kate Chopin's short story, The Storm presents multiple contradictions that stands out throughout the story with hints of foreshadowing that contributes to the overall mysterious and ominous mood. The male figures in the story first leaves to the store, leaving Calixta at home to ensure her safety; however, that contradicts with the secret affair she had while her husband and son were away because the unstoppable storm had caused her to let another man inside her house. Furthermore, the house was described as a warm, comforting, and very white, but as soon as the father and son had arrived home, their muddy and dirty clothes/shoes represents another contradiction because the secret affair doesn't associate with the color white (purity, cleanliness). On the other hand, the husband and son were the ones with good intentions but ended up getting dirty.
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Post by loganliu on Aug 29, 2021 21:05:05 GMT -8
The biggest contradiction within "The Storm" by Kate Chopin is the contrast between the parallels of the weather throughout the text, and the relationship between Alcee and Calixta. Throughout the text, the weather changed very rapidly causing the mood to shift along with it. In the beginning, the weather was dark and moody, with "certain somber clouds that were rolling with sinister intention from the west, accompanied by a sullen, threatening roar," creating a bleak mood. The feelings of Calixta and Alcee's characters contrast with the mood, as they are being passionate, heated, and intense. The storm may also be described as intense, but there is a much different intensity between the weather and the relationship between Alcee and Calixta, which directly contradict each other.
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Post by Edward Gonzalez on Aug 29, 2021 21:05:14 GMT -8
One of the major contradictions that was in "The Storm" was the relationship of Calixta and Bobinôt when compared to the relationship of Calixta and Alcee. One thing that I noticed in Calixta's personality for most of the story, she appeared to treat Alcee more as a friend as she shared her worries with him after he came to visit around pages 3 to 4 of the story; with most of the "The Storm" in mind, it is easy to indicate that the two are close friends, perhaps even occasional lovers. In comparison, Calixta treats her husband Bobinôt with a different attitude, which can be found on page 6. She appears to be more submissive and 'caring' at the same time, although the latter may merely be her attempting to cover what she did with Alcee as both Bobinôt and Bibi didn't know. It could be assumed that Calixta shares more of a closer bond with Alcee in comparison to her husband, hence the primary act that took center stage in "The Storm".
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Post by Deejay Bui on Aug 29, 2021 21:07:30 GMT -8
In “The Storm”, by Kate Chopin, the environment inside the house contradicts the storm that is beginning outside. Storms are typically associated with destruction and chaos, but the interaction between Alcee and Calixta show rekindling and underlying relief. The relationship between Alcee and Calixta shows the destructions of their individual marriages; however, the last line of the story contradicts everything else, saying “So the storm passed and everyone was happy.” Despite the ignorance of the other partners leading everyone to feel happy, the aftermath of the storm cannot be avoided. In the chapter titled “…Except Sex” in HTLAP, it discusses how authors choose to depict these scenes as a metaphor for something else. In the short story, the storm forced the proximity of Alcee and Calixta. However, it can be interpreted that the storm represents the relationship between them: predictable and inevitable. The storm picks up when Alcee steps into the house, and coincidentally ends when Alcee and Calixta are finished. Hey Madi, I like your interpretation of how storms are typically associated with destruction and chaos, but the interaction between Alcee and Calixta show rekindling and underlying relief. I also agree that their situation was predictable and inevitable as well because storms are a natural force of nature in which no one can control. Furthermore, your reference to HTRLAP was absolutely genius as it discussed how authors choose to depict these scenes as a metaphor for something else.
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Post by Edward Gonzalez on Aug 29, 2021 21:07:46 GMT -8
In Kate Chopin's short story, The Storm presents multiple contradictions that stands out throughout the story with hints of foreshadowing that contributes to the overall mysterious and ominous mood. The male figures in the story first leaves to the store, leaving Calixta at home to ensure her safety; however, that contradicts with the secret affair she had while her husband and son were away because the unstoppable storm had caused her to let another man inside her house. Furthermore, the house was described as a warm, comforting, and very white, but as soon as the father and son had arrived home, their muddy and dirty clothes/shoes represents another contradiction because the secret affair doesn't associate with the color white (purity, cleanliness). On the other hand, the husband and son were the ones with good intentions but ended up getting dirty. Great job on your interpretation of the story! When I was analyzing the story for the assignment, I didn't stop to consider the possible reasons as to Calixta remaining at home while Bobinôt and Bibi (the men) decide to go off without her. And, with the several mentions of the color white alongside the mud at the end of the story, it can represent an impurity that came as a result of the actions that Calixta did with Alcee. Another possibility of the father and son getting dirtied with the mud can be a representation of the effects of Calixta's actions upon the rest of the family.
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Post by loganliu on Aug 29, 2021 21:10:48 GMT -8
In "The Storm", we see the great contradiction between the setting and atmosphere during the storm, and after the storm. During the storm, the weather is shown in a negative connotation, and creates a frightened and eerie feeling: "The rain was coming down in sheets...enveloping the distant wood in gray mist...A [lightning] bolt struck a tall chinaberry tree..." (Chopin 3). In correlation to this stormy weather, the moment between Alcée and Calixta parallels with it, as they are both married and commit an act of evil; furthermore, they go against each of their spouses. This deed by Alcée and Calixta represents the frightening storm. On the contrary, after their deed, "The rain was over; and the sun was turning the glistening green world into a palace of gems" (Chopin 5). The storm was over, both literally and figuratively. This contradiction emphasizes that the storm was used as a sense of clarity for Alcée and Calixta because soon after, everyone was happy, calm, and things were back to normal, although it was odd. I agree with this statement completely, but I would like to argue that although the text says, "So the storm passed and everyone was happy," after a storm nothing is completely normal. There are still the aftermaths of a storm such as flooding, broken items, or electrical problems, which can compare to the story and how nothing is actually happy and normal. In the end, Alcee and Calixta had an affair which is not good, and Bobinot nor Clarisse know of this. So although everything may seem "happy" there are underlying issues hidden under a shroud of deceit.
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Post by Lilith Zapata on Aug 29, 2021 21:12:09 GMT -8
The storm represents the affair between Alcée and Calixta. Their passionate affair is ignited by the storm itself. Alcée rides to Calixta’s home and asks if he can take shelter in her home. The sexual tension after this is very prevalent and the storm grows as their tension grows. The sensual description of her flesh being “ Her firm elastic flesh that was knowing for the first time its birthright” shows that Alcée has had desire hidden away for Calixta for quite some time. The storm represents that fiery desire that Calixta was not able to express since she was married to Bobinôt. When the storm passes, their affair is done as well. Since when “the rain was over...Calixta, on the gallery, watched Alcée ride away,” the affair in itself was fleeting. It began with the storm and ended with the storm.
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Post by Kyle C on Aug 29, 2021 21:14:14 GMT -8
The storm is a strong representation of how setting brings unification between characters, and in this instance not in a good way. The storm for instance, brings the two brothers together in the start of the story. But it also brings together Calixta and Alcee; this is the instance where the storm brings together people in not a good way. Even in the beginning of the story, it states, "...sombre clouds that were rolling with sinister intention from the west, accompanied by a sullen, threatening roar" showing that the storm is a representation of Calixta and Alcee having their affair. The storm is also mentioned as hiding other cabins so that the main setting is hidden, just as how affairs are usually hidden.
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Post by william chen on Aug 29, 2021 21:20:29 GMT -8
《风暴》中最大的矛盾之一是天气与卡利克斯塔和阿尔西的行动之间。正如在 HTRLLAP 中看到的那样,暴风雨天气代表危险、沮丧、悲伤、冲突和负面事件。然而,当外面的风暴在继续,其他角色害怕并试图寻找安全时,Calixta 和 Alcee 在里面大笑。他们几乎对外面发生的事情一无所知,并且热情地有外遇。他们俩都很开心,笑着,享受着与风暴所代表的相反的时光。似乎负面事件和危险只适用于陷入风暴的卡利克斯塔的家人。这可以代表 Calixta 的行为对她的家人有害,但对她自己没有害处。 我同意艾米丽的观点,《风暴》中最大的矛盾之一是卡利克斯塔和阿西在天气下的行为。正如在 HTRLLAP 中看到的那样,天气代表着萧条、冲突和负面事件。然而,当外面的风暴继续前进时,Calixta和Alcee在家里笑了起来。凯特·肖邦提出,性满足——即使是婚外情——是积极的,可以增加两人关系的强度和幸福感。肖邦似乎并不认为通奸是一种损害婚姻的消极行为;相反,她的角色更快乐,更充实。这也意味着这种行为对自己无害,但对家人有害。
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Post by Kyle C. on Aug 29, 2021 21:20:51 GMT -8
In Kate Chopin's The Storm, a contradition can be seen in the way the storm keeps the different characters away from each other. There is a contrast from the usual as in normal circumstances, a storm would bring people closer to each other. It would force people to stay together in order to keep warm and ensure they don't perish due to the terrible weather. The opposite happens here however because the storm actually keeps Babinot and Bibi away from Calixta and eventually encourages her to start an affair with her old lover Alcee. This is a good take on the storm, but I would disagree because the storm seemed like it brought Calixta and Alcee together. It is like the storm is a representation of their affair and wanting to bring them together. It is as if the storm is actually the antagonist of the story, representing the affair of Calixta and Alcee by bringing them together, covering the main cabin's view of other cabins, and striking lighting nearby to kind of "flash" the truth.
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Post by safi on Aug 29, 2021 21:26:06 GMT -8
The storm is about bringing people together even if the intention is not pure as represented by the storm itself. Like when the woman hooks up with the man, she is committing adultery and even the storm is threatening to expose them to the world. Meaning that their secret will soon be exposed. This is like in How to read like a professor during the chapter that talks about weather like rain meaning it brings people together just like what happens in the storm.
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Post by safi on Aug 29, 2021 21:27:38 GMT -8
《风暴》中最大的矛盾之一是天气与卡利克斯塔和阿尔西的行动之间。正如在 HTRLLAP 中看到的那样,暴风雨天气代表危险、沮丧、悲伤、冲突和负面事件。然而,当外面的风暴在继续,其他角色害怕并试图寻找安全时,Calixta 和 Alcee 在里面大笑。他们几乎对外面发生的事情一无所知,并且热情地有外遇。他们俩都很开心,笑着,享受着与风暴所代表的相反的时光。似乎负面事件和危险只适用于陷入风暴的卡利克斯塔的家人。这可以代表 Calixta 的行为对她的家人有害,但对她自己没有害处。 我同意艾米丽的观点,《风暴》中最大的矛盾之一是卡利克斯塔和阿西在天气下的行为。正如在 HTRLLAP 中看到的那样,天气代表着萧条、冲突和负面事件。然而,当外面的风暴继续前进时,Calixta和Alcee在家里笑了起来。凯特·肖邦提出,性满足——即使是婚外情——是积极的,可以增加两人关系的强度和幸福感。肖邦似乎并不认为通奸是一种损害婚姻的消极行为;相反,她的角色更快乐,更充实。这也意味着这种行为对自己无害,但对家人有害。Even though i do not know chinese you are correct in that the storm has contradictions in the story. Very TRUE WILLIAM CHEN.
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Post by Steven Yap on Aug 29, 2021 21:28:32 GMT -8
The most prominent contradiction in the story is the relationship between Calixta and Alcee with the continuous transformation of the weather. The author is able to successfully blend in the weather with Calixta and Alcee's physical activity to illustrate the power and self enjoyment they have throughout the story embellishing not only the prominence of the affair but also the importance of making a sex scene implicit/have meaning. There is a particular chapter in HTRLLAP where the author dives deep into the strategy of how other authors use sex scenes to demonstrate meaning and symbolism to contribute to the overall nuance of the story. In "The storm" the main scene depicts this wild storm raging on similar to the storm happening in the bedroom and at the very end of the story it is said that, "the storm passed and everyone was happy." The overarching message to this story is the belief that dangerous actions don't always have to met by inevitable consequences which opens up the conversation to themes such as loyalty, trust, pleasure over control, and risk taking.
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Post by robert au on Aug 29, 2021 21:28:52 GMT -8
《风暴》中最大的矛盾之一是天气与卡利克斯塔和阿尔西的行动之间。正如在 HTRLLAP 中看到的那样,暴风雨天气代表危险、沮丧、悲伤、冲突和负面事件。然而,当外面的风暴在继续,其他角色害怕并试图寻找安全时,Calixta 和 Alcee 在里面大笑。他们几乎对外面发生的事情一无所知,并且热情地有外遇。他们俩都很开心,笑着,享受着与风暴所代表的相反的时光。似乎负面事件和危险只适用于陷入风暴的卡利克斯塔的家人。这可以代表 Calixta 的行为对她的家人有害,但对她自己没有害处。 我同意艾米丽的观点,《风暴》中最大的矛盾之一是卡利克斯塔和阿西在天气下的行为。正如在 HTRLLAP 中看到的那样,天气代表着萧条、冲突和负面事件。然而,当外面的风暴继续前进时,Calixta和Alcee在家里笑了起来。凯特·肖邦提出,性满足——即使是婚外情——是积极的,可以增加两人关系的强度和幸福感。肖邦似乎并不认为通奸是一种损害婚姻的消极行为;相反,她的角色更快乐,更充实。这也意味着这种行为对自己无害,但对家人有害。I agree with what you said William! I will also give you the benefit of incorporating your culture in this text. I appreciate your commitment to both the class with your through analysis as well as your bringing of your culture and introducing it to us.
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