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Post by nicholas on Aug 22, 2021 22:39:25 GMT -8
It is evident that Granny would die later on when she states, "she found death in her mind and it felt clammy and unfamiliar. She had spent so much time preparing for death there was no need for bringing it up again." This quote shows that she was comfortable with the topic of death, but most importantly it was foreshadowing that she would, later on, die in the story. This also reveals about her personality that she has a very tough mental and that probably something in her past prepared her for this moment. I agree with you Safi on how the quote you had provided of "she found death in her mind and if felt clammy and unfamiliar". In this quote it is very interesting because Granny was once a very strong person and had believed that she would not die soon, but in a way she knew that her time was inevitably coming soon. Granny at the end of the short story however was accepting of her death. Perhaps she possibly believed that she had fulfilled her goal of playing as both parent roles and completed all of her responsibilities in life. |
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Post by angkorheng on Aug 22, 2021 22:39:46 GMT -8
Hi Darren Ich Bowen Wang, Justin Hsieh, Kryslin Vu, Kiersten Kang, and Luigi Lozano!! I, also, agree with you analysis on Granny Weatherall's character and asserted ignorance throughout the short story. Weatherall constantly displays her denial or death which ultimately results in her regretting many things as she comes to the realization that she is, in fact, dying. It is interesting to see how her physical state is synonymous with how she acts toward her family and her emotional, internal thoughts. Hi Darren Ich Bowen Wang, Justin Hsieh, Kryslin Vu, Kiersten Kang, Luigi Lozano, and Aaron Choi!! I am in total agreement with the analysis of Granny's persona throughout the passage. We see that her personality and traits correlates to the lamp pattern that happens throughout the story. Like Aaron Choi said when she is dying we see her emotional thoughts at the same time the lamp turned off and then we see it.  Hi Darren Ich Bowen Wang, Justin Hsieh, Kryslin Vu, Kiersten Kang, Luigi Lozano, and Aaron Choi, and Safi Saleem!! I really like this take on the analysis of Granny Weatherall 's character and agree with your statements about her ignorance and denial throughout the story. With the way she reacts to her surroundings, her state of denial did indeed result in her ultimate regret on the many things that she did not accomplish throughout the game. The way she acts with her family as she is dying shows a great reflection on how she really thinks inside her mind about her regrets. |
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Post by Deejay Bui on Aug 22, 2021 22:47:14 GMT -8
Throughout the narrative, Granny maintains stubbornness and a harsh tone on the people who are trying to care for her. However, towards the end of the story as Cornelia is crying in front of Granny, she notices that Cornelia’s “features were swollen and full of little puddles,” and tells her to wash her face because she looks “funny.” This situation truly reveals how Granny is trying not to let herself get emotional as she is also aware that she’s approaching death. She herself is scared and mournful but does not like to think about it as the thought alone would be too much to bear with her children standing next to her and reminiscing about her own life. Instead, she simply dismisses any show of emotion as a way of coping with fear, regret, and reality. Therefore, this explains that her stubbornness and controlling tone with the people around her are caused by her trying to be in charge as a mother figure and trying to not accept reality as she is dying.
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Post by nicholas on Aug 22, 2021 22:49:40 GMT -8
Hi Darren Ich Bowen Wang, Justin Hsieh, Kryslin Vu, Kiersten Kang, and Luigi Lozano!! I, also, agree with you analysis on Granny Weatherall's character and asserted ignorance throughout the short story. Weatherall constantly displays her denial or death which ultimately results in her regretting many things as she comes to the realization that she is, in fact, dying. It is interesting to see how her physical state is synonymous with how she acts toward her family and her emotional, internal thoughts. Hi Darren Ich Bowen Wang, Justin Hsieh, Kryslin Vu, Kiersten Kang, Luigi Lozano, and Aaron Choi!! I am in total agreement with the analysis of Granny's persona throughout the passage. We see that her personality and traits correlates to the lamp pattern that happens throughout the story. Like Aaron Choi said when she is dying we see her emotional thoughts at the same time the lamp turned off and then we see it. Hi Darren Ich, Bobo Wang, Justin Hsieh, Kryslin Vu, Kiersten Kang, Luigi Lozano, Aaron Choi, and Safi Saleem!! I agree wholeheartedly on your great interpretations and breakdown on Granny Weatherall's character from this section of the passage. Her idea of death and the timing of it all provided a strong contrast from what Granny Weatherall was stating to what was actually happening. She was constantly portrayed with her rejection of the idea of death and in itself as Aaron Choi has mentioned as well as Safi Saleem bringing to attention of the idea also that the lamp patterns found within were subtle hinds on the progress, what happens, in the story. |
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Post by Deejay Bui on Aug 22, 2021 22:59:39 GMT -8
In the beginning of the story, it's pretty clear that we see foreshadowing in the granny's death. For example, on page 82, it states, "she found death in her mind." Although we are all bound to die, I feel that the granny is aware that her time is coming and tries to give farewells throughout the entire storyline. Also, on page 83, when granny states, "There was always so much to be done, let me see: tomorrow." This is kind of showing the audience that she's having difficulty with doing daily tasks. Even waiting for tomorrow is tough, and its as if shes waiting for the day. Moreover, she starts to reminisce over her old days with George, Hapsy, John, etc. It's as if shes reliving her last 7 minutes of best memories (in science, like how people relive their best memories right before they die). Throughout the story, there's also symbolism on color, such as green days. Green can represent sickly feeling, like vomiting, but it can also stand for health and nature. In the granny's perspective, we can see that her health is declining. Hi jennaaa, this is maryssa  . I completely agree that the author used foreshadowing as one of their literary elements throughout the story. The examples you used really express the use of foreshadowing throughout the story. I also agree with how the author uses symbolism, especially with colors, to communicate Granny Weatherall's physical and mental state. Hi Jenna and Maryssa, this is DJ. I like how you mentioned that there was some sort of foreshadowing that occured at the beginning and I definitely agree that I feel that the granny is aware that her time is coming and tries to give farewells throughout the entire storyline. I also believe that this thought throughout the story defined her character even more because of how Granny is also trying not to let herself get emotional as she is also aware that she’s approaching death. She herself is scared and mournful but does not like to think about it as the thought alone would be too much to bear with her children standing next to her and reminiscing about her own life. |
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Post by loganliu on Aug 22, 2021 23:13:14 GMT -8
Early in the text, Granny Weatherall quickly portrayed herself as a hostile belligerent character based on her attitude and dialogue. Within the first few paragraphs she starts by saying, "Get along now, take your school books and go. There's nothing wrong with me." This can be taken as rude as she speaks to the doctor with disrespect. On the surface Granny Weatherall portrays herself as unfriendly or bitter, but as the story progresses you learn more about her background and upbringings, which helps to explain why she acts the way she acts. Granny Weatherall's past plays a large role in the way she acts now; She says, "She had fenced in a hundred acres at once, digging the post holes herself and clamping the wires with just a negro boy to help." Her saying this about her past helps show the influence it had on her future. In her past she was strong, independent, and individualistic which helps explain her feelings portrayed within the story. Her impoliteness throughout the story could have been influenced by her "strength" she expressed in her past, and her past independence explains her non-reliance on the doctor.
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Post by yaboiaaronchoi on Aug 22, 2021 23:16:21 GMT -8
The patterns of literary elements and techniques presented throughout the story is able to define Granny Weatherall as a character. It can be seen throughout the text that Granny Weatheral’ls health is not the best and the text can project this both on a physical level and a figurative level. Examples of this can be seen through the setting and the variety of symbols used in the text. The overall setting that is presented in the story is synonymous with Weathralls situation both physically and mentally. Weatherall denies that she is getting worse but the current condition of her house is a direct contradiction to her claims and her ignorance. The condition of her house is synonymous with Weatheralls ignorance. For example keeping letters, old furniture, and old glassware and constantly cleaning all asserts how Weatherall is unwilling to accept her death until it actually comes.
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Post by trinityhallberg on Aug 22, 2021 23:17:53 GMT -8
Granny Witherall's character seems to have an internal struggle with opening up to others and accepting help. She has been on her own all of her life. She has been betrayed by many people, like when she was abandoned by her lover, "Plenty of girls get jilted. You were jilted weren't you? Then stand up to it" (84). Although other people try to help her, take care of her, she holds resentment for these people because she wants to take care of things on her own as a defense mechanism. When Cornelia is concerned for her, she acts like she doesn’t want the help, that Cornelia is too concerned with her for instance, "It was like Cornelia to whisper around doors. She had always kept things secret in such a public way. She was always being tactful and kind. Cornelia was dutiful; that was the trouble with her. Dutiful and good" (81). Granny's stubborn character and determination to stay away from any help she can get conflicts with Cornelia's caring nature and this conflict is exactly what prohibits Granny from opening up to others and builds a wall between anyone and everyone who tries to break the barrier.
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Post by trinityhallberg on Aug 22, 2021 23:28:11 GMT -8
Throughout the story, Granny Weatherall alternates between her current situation, lying in her deathbed, and reflecting on her past. It is clear that Granny Weatherall is a strong-headed woman who thrives on independency. The contrast that is developed between these scenes show how Granny's deteriorating mental health is affecting her character. When she reflects on the past, she describes how productive she was around the house, exemplifying her determination. When the story shifts back to the present, Granny's attitude has changed as a result of her illness taking a toll on her, as she always thinks "That's tomorrows business" (Porter 82). Despite not being able to attend to herself, she is still insistent on not requiring the help of others. Cornelia, her daughter, and Doctor Harry often fall prey to Granny Weatherall's stubbornness. They take care of Granny by treating her as a helpless child, speaking in condescending tones and often reminding one another of how old Granny is. Though their actions of wanting to help are not malicious, from Granny's point of view, it is as if they think she is incapable and child-like. Being treated like this is an insult to Granny because she seems to pride herself on being someone who is not reliant on the help of others. Ultimately, Granny Weatherall's deteriorating health is reflected in her shift in attitude, yet simultaneously, her health has not completely erased who she was in the past. I agree with the idea that Granny Witherall independancy is a strong character trait that she carries all the way to her ultimate death. Throughout her life she has used this independancy as a tool for survival, but in the end she ultimately couldn't open up to her own children and give up this mind state and allow herself to be taken care of. She has this misunderstanding that people see her as a child that needs to be taken care of, which is something that must've frustrated and embarrassed her, but in reality, she really did need the help because she was no longer capable of caring for herself. |
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Post by robertau11 on Aug 22, 2021 23:29:12 GMT -8
Hi Darren Ich Bowen Wang, Justin Hsieh, Kryslin Vu, Kiersten Kang, Luigi Lozano, and Aaron Choi!! I am in total agreement with the analysis of Granny's persona throughout the passage. We see that her personality and traits correlates to the lamp pattern that happens throughout the story. Like Aaron Choi said when she is dying we see her emotional thoughts at the same time the lamp turned off and then we see it. Hi Darren Ich, Bobo Wang, Justin Hsieh, Kryslin Vu, Kiersten Kang, Luigi Lozano, Aaron Choi, Safi Saleem, and Nicholas Chou!! I completely agree with with your interpretation of Granny's identity as well as her personality. We also notice that her personality mimics the 5 Stages of Grief. Eg: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance. Throughout her narration of the story, her relationship with her passing follows this this format. In the beginning she starts out as stubborn, refusing to accept that she's turning old and dying. Later she lashes out at her family in a fit of rage. Then she tries to bargain before passing, wanting to meet her family. Nearing the end, she becomes more somber and sad, feeling drained over the idea of her dying. And finally, she accepts that she will pass and embraces her emotions and feelings one last time. |
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Post by Teresa Huang on Aug 23, 2021 5:22:01 GMT -8
Near the beginning of the short story, Granny Weatherall was constantly talking about tomorrow - "tomorrow I'll do that, tomorrow still seems so far away...". The repetition of tomorrow and the long sentence structures suggest one aspect of Granny Weatherall's character, which is that she is more or less of a procrastinator. This also suggests that she was not yet worried about death as it to her, still seems far away. This creates interesting contrast with how she was before, and contrasts with the end where she was laying on her death bed. Before, when she was around sixty, she was always preparing for death, visiting her children, etc. But now she was not worried at all, showing that Granny is a person who has capricious opinions, but does things to an extreme extent for all of her opinions. Relating back to the beginning, her procrastination had consequences that came to light in the end in which she was very hurried and was regretting all things she didn't do as she realizes that she will die soon. Written with the syntax of short sentence structures, it establishes an anxious and emotional tone, directly in contrast with the long run-on sentences before.
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Post by ashleychang on Aug 24, 2021 21:58:48 GMT -8
The color blue reappears within the story, where it represents the different stages of her life in the story. It starts off in the scene with the labeled jars, then the flames, the streams of light, the painting, and lastly the lamp. The labeled jars symbolizes the time where she had order and control over her life. The flames into the blue curve represents how her children, after drawing comfort from her strength, stopped needing her and are able to go off into the world on their own. The streams of blue light then represent the stage in Granny's life that seemed to last for the duration of her marriage--during which she felt that she was married to the wrong man. Lastly, the blue from the lightshade represents the point in her life where life passes her by: the final stage of her life, in which the light snuffs her out.
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Post by dollyyyz on Aug 25, 2021 23:03:51 GMT -8
Granny Weatherall is a strong-willed eighty-year-old woman on her deathbed. In Granny Weatherall’s semi-conscious state, the past mingles with the present and people and objects take on new forms and identities. After the doctor leaves her alone, Granny Weatherall takes stock of her life, taking pleasure in the thought “that a person could spread out the plan of life and tuck the edges in orderly.” But it is not long before she finds “death in her mind and it felt clammy and unfamiliar.” The presence of death in her thoughts causes her to recall an earlier time when she thought she was dying and how she had spent too much time preparing for it. This time she considers “all the food she had cooked, and all the clothes she had cut and sewed, and all the gardens she had made” and declares herself satisfied. Granny Weatherall feels “jilted” once again at the end of the story—perhaps because her favorite daughter, Hapsy, has not shown up at her bedside, and perhaps also because she has become aware of a more profound absence in her spiritual life.
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Post by carly soto on Sept 1, 2021 22:59:26 GMT -8
Granny Witherall's character seems to have an internal struggle with opening up to others and accepting help. She has been on her own all of her life. She has been betrayed by many people, like when she was abandoned by her lover, "Plenty of girls get jilted. You were jilted weren't you? Then stand up to it" (84). Although other people try to help her, take care of her, she holds resentment for these people because she wants to take care of things on her own as a defense mechanism. When Cornelia is concerned for her, she acts like she doesn’t want the help, that Cornelia is too concerned with her for instance, "It was like Cornelia to whisper around doors. She had always kept things secret in such a public way. She was always being tactful and kind. Cornelia was dutiful; that was the trouble with her. Dutiful and good" (81). Granny's stubborn character and determination to stay away from any help she can get conflicts with Cornelia's caring nature and this conflict is exactly what prohibits Granny from opening up to others and builds a wall between anyone and everyone who tries to break the barrier. I agree with your theory about Cornelias caring nature conflicting with Granny's ability's to open up. I feel as if they have almost polar opposite personalities that may have conflicted during the time Granny started getting sick and agitated. It may be one of the reasons that Granny started to become the way she became, she did not want to sadden Cornelias spirting with her own problems. |
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Post by hchen2 on Sept 13, 2021 0:07:27 GMT -8
Granny Weatherall's character is complex, meaning that her true self is different from both the person we perceive her as and the person she portrays herself as. Granny believes that she is fearless and independent, much like her late father, who drank heavily during his last birthday, insisting that she has the ability to care for and provide for herself. She regularly convinces herself and attempts to convince her family that she does not fear death, and that she has prepared herself years ago. However, Granny constantly reminisces about her past, wishing to be her young self again. She wishes to see her ex-boyfriend George again, along with her children when they were younger. She also reminisces about her wedding day, eventually realizing that she would no longer view her husband the same way if she saw him again, in an age much younger than hers. Granny's inconsistent, conflicting actions show that under her tough and fearless facade, she secretly fears death more than anything. She is finally able to come into terms with her fear on her deathbed, where she admits that she is not yet ready to die, reluctantly accepting the state of her life.
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. I completely agree that the author used foreshadowing as one of their literary elements throughout the story. The examples you used really express the use of foreshadowing throughout the story. I also agree with how the author uses symbolism, especially with colors, to communicate Granny Weatherall's physical and mental state.